"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/21/2018 at 10:30 • Filed to: None
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"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/21/2018 at 10:30 • Filed to: None | 1
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Oh jolly!
This was posted on Oppotalk in Facebook, and it’s clickbait, baited me, but it does raise a question of what threats older cars pose to our safety as motorists
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Discuss, considering this situation is WAY more nuanced than what the commenters and the journalists say.
Also, should I replace the lead paint in my house or keep the vintage style?
crowmolly
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 10:42 |
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Is the lead paint chipping or is it in good shape? I wouldn’t disturb it for no reason.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> crowmolly
03/21/2018 at 10:50 |
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Well, what if most buildings with lead paint are chipped (this is a metaphor)?
Ilove classic cars, but I can also totally see their argument.
I don’t care if someone dies in their old car (freedom to fuck up!) But I’m not sure someone would be too keen to see a 2 ton 1970s range rover barreling towards them because the driver doesn’t know how to control such a vehicle without ESC. Neither would they like being rear ended by an old car without ABS because it’s braking distance is worse than a newer car in an emergency.
But at the same time, a 1993 S class probably has more safety tec than the cheapest 2003 Toyota you could get your hands on, so it’s being generalized a lot.... I wouldn’t be againts an effort to remove unsafe vehicles from the road, but that can be pretty much done with good safety inspections.... Also there should be a focus to conserve classic cars while also understanding they represent a danger to other users.
I think its very nuanced and I doubt any government would do it properly, so I’m sitting on a fence on this.
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crowmolly
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 10:53 |
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Sorry, I am not a member of that group so I am not in on the discussion.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> crowmolly
03/21/2018 at 10:54 |
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I posted it here so that the discussion was in oppo, but okay!
Oh, wait, you can’t see the post?
InFierority Complex
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:01 |
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Clickbait article title is clickbait and it seems nobody on the Facebook group are actually reading it anyways. Shocking.
Nowhere in the article does it say that the study recommends banning cars from before 2002. Just that from their statistics cars from 1998-2002 faired the worst. It literally says that they found classic cars to not be a problem.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:03 |
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Too late, I deleted my Facebook just yesterday. I don’t want to be unwittingly manipulated into playing in political subterfuge orchestrated by Deep State interests.
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InFierority Complex
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:06 |
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Oppositetalk is a closed group I think so only members can see posts. Why not post a direct link to the article if possible.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> InFierority Complex
03/21/2018 at 11:09 |
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It says on the first line of the article that vehicles 15 years or older should be “phased out”
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Spanfeller is a twat
> InFierority Complex
03/21/2018 at 11:11 |
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You are right. Let me do just that!
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InFierority Complex
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:13 |
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Which does not equal “ban.” Look at the recommendations at the bottom of the article. It’s about reducing the average age of vehicles on the road, not instituting a line in the sand. All their recommendations are about incentives for new cars (which may be their main motive), not punishing those with older ones.
Alfalfa
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:19 |
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I we were to force everyone to remove their lead paint and repaint their homes, that would create an undue burden on many people. Especially considering that most of the time it’s not really a problem, and the people with lead based paint in their homes are living in older homes which means they’re more likely lower-income families.
Pretty much the same thing with the old cars, really.
fintail
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:51 |
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I didn’t see plans for a literal ban, but I could imagine it in nannystatelia - remember their hooning penalties.
Nothing
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 12:00 |
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Put drivers more prone to accidents in newer vehicles and watch the fatality rate soar amongst new vehicles, too! Phase out all cars except classics! Where’s “Unsafe at any speed” volume 23?
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Alfalfa
03/21/2018 at 12:34 |
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I brought up lead paint because I think it could be compared because both are widespread hazards that at first glance should be banned altogether, but obviously it’s far more complex; not everyone can afford a new car every 5 years and neither should all lead paint be removed if it’s not posing an inminent danger (ie chipped)
But to my personal opinion lead paint is much more hazardous, perhaps why HUD invests a lot of money on removing it.
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> Nothing
03/21/2018 at 12:36 |
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I don’t know, man, I’m not a bad enough driver to have been saved by esc or tcs, but I’ve witnessed some close calls...
It is, like in many other cases, a lack of education.
CaptDale - is secretly British
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 13:23 |
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That was me, you are welcome